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The 2018 AMD Ryzen Price Cut Guide!

When AMD launched the Ryzen 5 2400G and Ryzen 3 2200G desktop APUs, they also announced price cuts for their existing ThreadripperRyzen 7, Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 3 processors. In June 2018, they announced even lower prices. Check out the AMD Ryzen price cut details below!

Updated @ 2018-06-20 : Added the new AMD Ryzen price cut list, after the abolition of the 6% GST.

Updated @ 2018-03-23 : Added the AMD Ryzen price cut list in the US, and a comparison of that price list against the price cuts in Malaysia.

Originally posted @ 2018-02-13

 

The 2018 AMD Ryzen Price Cut Details

The original Ryzen price cut list was sparse, so we added prices in USD (after conversion), the price difference, and even the prices of the new Ryzen 5 2400G and Ryzen 3 2200G desktop APUs.

In the latest version, we added the new Ryzen price list after the abolition of the 6% GST. We also added the 2nd Gen Ryzen processor prices. Some have called this a price cut, but it’s not. The prices are just lower because there’s no longer a 6% tax,

Recommended Retail Price in Malaysia
Launch Price
(with GST)
1 February 2018
(with GST)
1 June 2018
(no GST)
Difference
(with GST)
Difference
(no GST)
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X RM 4,799
~$1,216
RM 4,699
~$1,190
RM 4,433
~$1,108
RM 100
~$25
RM 366
~$92
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920X RM 3,899
~$988
RM 3,799
~$963
RM 3,584
~$896
RM 100
~$25
RM 315
~$79
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1900X RM 2,899
~$734
RM 2,299
~$582
RM 2,169
~$542
RM 600
~$152
RM 730
~$183
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X RM 2,599
~$658
RM 1,699
~$430
RM 1,600
~$400
RM 900
~$228
RM 999
~$250
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X RM 1,559
~$390
Launched in April RM 1,470
~$368
RM 89 / ~$22
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X RM 1,899
~$481
RM 1,499
~$380
RM 1,414
~$354
RM 400
~$101
RM 485
~$121
AMD Ryzen 7 2700 RM 1,429
~$357
Launched in April RM 1,348
~$337
RM 81
~$20
AMD Ryzen 7 1700 RM 1,599
~$405
RM 1,399
~$354
RM 1,319
~$330
RM 200
~$51
RM 280
~$70
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X RM 1,059
~$265
Launched in April RM 999
~$368
RM 60
~$15
AMD Ryzen 5 1600X RM 1,199
~$304
RM 999
~$253
RM 943
~$236
RM 200
~$51
RM 256
~$64
AMD Ryzen 5 2600 RM 899
~$225
Launched in April RM 848
~$212
RM 51
~$13
AMD Ryzen 5 1600 RM 1,039
~$263
RM 859
~$218
RM 810
~$203
RM 180
~$46
RM 229
~$57
AMD Ryzen 5 1500X RM 899
~$228
RM 799
~$202
RM 753
~$188
RM 100
~$25
RM 146
~$37
AMD Ryzen 5 2400G RM 759
~$192
Launched in Feb RM 716
~$179
RM 43
~$11
AMD Ryzen 5 1400 RM 819
~$208
RM 739
~$187
RM 697
~$174
RM 80
~$20
RM 122
~$31
AMD Ryzen 3 1300X RM 599
~$152
RM 579
~$147
RM 547
~$137
RM 20
~$5
RM 52
~$13
AMD Ryzen 3 2200G RM 479
~$121
Launched in Feb RM 452
~$113
RM 27
~$7
AMD Ryzen 3 1200 RM 519
~$131
RM 459
~$116
RM 433
~$108
RM 60
~$15
RM 66
~$17

The 2018 AMD Ryzen price cut list showed price cuts across every Ryzen model. The biggest discount was a massive RM 900 / ~$228 discount on the AMD Ryzen 7 1800X. The least was a paltry RM 20 / ~$5 discount on the AMD Ryzen 3 1300X.

If you read our AMD Ryzen 3 2200G Review, you may have noticed that it is supposed to be $10 / ~RM 39 cheaper than the Ryzen 3 1200. Yet, AMD is pricing it ABOVE the Ryzen 3 1200 here in Malaysia.

Unfortunately, there was no further price cuts after the launch of the 2nd Gen Ryzen processors.

 

The 2018 AMD Ryzen Price Cut In The US

Here was the AMD Ryzen price cut list announced for the United States. If you compare how the Ryzen price cut list in Malaysia compares to the Ryzen price cut list in the US, you can see some differences.

US Recommended Retail Price
(without taxes)
Launch Price New Price
(1 Feb 2018)
Difference
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X $999 $999 No Change
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920X $799 $799 No Change
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1900X $549 $449 – $100
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X $449 $349 – $100
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X $399 $309 – $90
AMD Ryzen 7 1700 $329 $299 – $30
AMD Ryzen 5 1600X $249 $219 – $30
AMD Ryzen 5 1600 $219 $189 – $30
AMD Ryzen 5 1500X $189 $174 – $15
AMD Ryzen 5 2400G $169
AMD Ryzen 5 1400 $169 $169 No Change
AMD Ryzen 3 1300X $129 $129 No Change
AMD Ryzen 3 1200 $109 $109 No Change
AMD Ryzen 3 2200G $99

Generally, prices in Malaysia are 13-15% higher without the 6% GST, but every single Ryzen model received some kind of discount.

On the other hand, the Ryzen Threadripper 1950X and 1920X processors, or the Ryzen 5 1400Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200 processors were not discounted in the US.

Also, AMD positioned (and priced) the Ryzen 3 1300X CPU above Ryzen 3 2200G in the US, while the opposite is true in Malaysia. On the other hand, the Ryzen 5 2400G is slightly more expensive than the Ryzen 5 1400 CPU in Malaysia.

The latest June 2018 AMD Ryzen price list also show that the Ryzen 5 1400 and Ryzen 3 1200 have not been phased out. They were supposed to be replaced by the Ryzen 5 2400G and Ryzen 3 2200G desktop APUs. But it looks like, AMD will continue to sell them, alongside the new Ryzen desktop APUs.

 

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2nd Gen Ryzen @ Ryzen 2 – Everything You Need To Know!

AMD launched the Ryzen 7 processors in March 2017. Just over a year later, they finally launched the 2nd Gen Ryzen desktop processors, codenamed Pinnacle Ridge, and popularly known as Ryzen 2.

Here is everything you need to know about 2nd Gen Ryzen processors – key features, specifications, price and performance! As always, we will keep updating the article when new information comes to light.

 

2nd Gen Ryzen @ Ryzen 2

Colloquially known as Ryzen 2, the 2nd Gen Ryzen desktop processors promise even to deliver even better price-performance value than their award-winning Ryzen brethren. But calling the actual models Ryzen 2 is confusing, because the Ryzen family is split into three numerically-named lines – Ryzen 7, Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 3.

Officially, they should be known as the 2nd Gen Ryzen processors, or the AMD Ryzen 2000 Series, like so :

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  • AMD Ryzen 7 2000 Series
  • AMD Ryzen 5 2000 Series
  • AMD Ryzen 3 2000 Series

Even so, many people still insist on calling them the Ryzen 2 processors…

 

AMD Raven Ridge

The first AMD Ryzen 2 processors already hit the market on 12 February 2018. The AMD Ryzen 2000G Series, codenamed Raven Ridge, is considered to be part of the Ryzen 2000 series, even though they are based on the original Zen microarchitecture.

They are Accelerated Processing Units (APUs) – essentially Ryzen CPUs with integrated Vega graphics. You can read more about them in our articles :

 

AMD Pinnacle Ridge

The true 2nd Gen Ryzen desktop processors are codenamed Pinnacle Ridge. They are based on the Zen+ microarchitecture, and fabricated using the 12LP process technology. Here are the first four 2nd Gen Ryzen processors :

  • AMD Ryzen 7 2700X – 8C / 16T, 20 MB cache, 3.7 GHz / 4.3 GHz
  • AMD Ryzen 7 2700 – 8C / 16T, 20 MB cache, 3.2 GHz / 4.1 GHz
  • AMD Ryzen 5 2600X – 6C / 12T, 19 MB cache, 3.6 GHz / 4.2 GHz
  • AMD Ryzen 5 2600 – 6C / 12T, 19 MB cache, 3.4 GHz / 3.9 GHz

Existing AMD 300-series motherboards will support the new 2nd Gen Ryzen “Pinnacle Ridge” processors with a BIOS update, which should be available starting March 2018.

 

The AMD Ryzen 2000 Series Stack

According to the current AMD Ryzen 2000 Series Stack, the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X replaces both the Ryzen 7 1700X and Ryzen 7 1800X.

2nd Gen Ryzen @ Ryzen 2 Specifications

Here are the specifications of the six AMD Ryzen 2000 series processors – four 2nd Gen Ryzen “Pinnacle Ridge” processors, and two Raven Ridge APUs.

SpecificationsRyzen 7 2700XRyzen 7 2700Ryzen 5 2600XRyzen 5 2600Ryzen 5 2400GRyzen 3 2200G
Code NamePinnacle RidgePinnacle RidgePinnacle RidgePinnacle RidgeRaven RidgeRaven Ridge
SocketAM4AM4AM4AM4AM4AM4
Process Technology12 nm FinFET12 nm FinFET12 nm FinFET12 nm FinFET14 nm FinFET14 nm FinFET
Cores / Threads8 / 168 / 166 / 126 / 124 / 84 / 4
Base Clock3.7 GHz3.2 GHz3.6 GHz3.4 GHz3.60 GHz3.50 GHz
Boost Clock4.3 GHz4.1 GHz4.2 GHz3.9 GHz3.90 GHz3.70 GHz
L2 Cache4 MB4 MB3 MB3 MB2 MB2 MB
L3 Cache16 MB16 MB16 MB16 MB4 MB4 MB
Integrated GPUNoneNoneNoneNoneRadeon RX Vega 11Radeon Vega 8
PCIe Lanes1616161688
Max. DDR4 SpeedDDR4-2933DDR4-2933DDR4-2933DDR4-2933DDR4-2933DDR4-2933
TDP105 W65 W95 W65 W65 W65 W
Bundled CoolerWraith PrismWraith Spire (LED)Wraith SpireWraith StealthWraith StealthWraith Stealth
Launch PriceUS$ 329US$ 299US$ 229US$ 199US$ 169US$ 99

 

2nd Gen Ryzen Price & Availability

The 2nd Gen Ryzen @ Ryzen 2 processors are available for sale beginning 19 April 2018, at the following price points :


Will the first generation Ryzen (Summit Ridge) processors get a price cut when the 2nd Gen Ryzen begins shipping? Find out in our article – Cheaper Ryzen CPUs When Ryzen 2 Launches?

Next Page > 2nd Gen Ryzen @ Ryzen 2 Key Features Part 1

 

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2nd Gen Ryzen @ Ryzen 2 Key Features Part 1

The AMD Ryzen 2 processors are based on an improved Zen microarchitecture, what AMD calls the Zen+ microarchitecture. Let’s take a closer look at what’s new with the 2nd Gen Ryzen processors!

2nd Gen Ryzen @ Ryzen 2 Tech Briefings

This time, we have not one, but TWO, tech briefings on the 2nd Gen Ryzen processors. This one was recorded at the March preview event in Bangkok, featuring Kevin Lensing (AMD Corporate Vice President and General Manager, Client Business Unit) and James Prior (AMD Senior Product Manager).

And here is an online tech briefing by Robert Hallock, AMD Head of Global Technical Marketing.

AMD Zen+ Microarchitecture

The 2nd Gen Ryzen processors are based on the improved AMD Zen+ microarchitecture, which delivers slightly better performance, with lower cache and memory latencies :

  • 3% more 1T IPC (instructions per second)
  • 13% lower L1 cache latency
  • 34% lower L2 cache latency
  • 16% lower L3 cache latency
  • 11% lower memory latency
  • Official support for JEDEC DDR4-2933

12LP Process Technology

The 2nd Gen Ryzen processors are fabricated using the 12LP (12 nm Leading Performance) process technology from GlobalFoundries.

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This is really a 14 nm process, with improvements and a tighter pitch, so the die size and transistor count remain the same. However, the improved process allows for these improvements :

  • top clock speed increased by 250 MHz
  • “all core” now overclock around 4.2 GHz
  • CPU voltage is reduced by about 50 mV at all clock speeds
  • up to 11% lower power consumption, compared to 14 nm
  • up to 16% better performance per watt, compared to 14 nm

Precision Boost 2

Precision Boost 2 is one of the biggest improvements in AMD SenseMI. It replaces the old 2-core boost model, with a linear boost model. This allows for much greater performance for games and applications that use more than 2 cores.

Precision Boost Overdrive

James Prior revealed that AMD will introduce a feature called Precision Boost Overdrive in the future. The motherboard will be able to communicate its actual capabilities to the 2nd Gen Ryzen processor, allowing for better boost profiles and a relaxed vcore limiter with better motherboards.

Extended Frequency Range 2 (XFR 2)

XFR 2 boosts the 2nd Gen Ryzen processor’s performance by 4-7%, depending on the performance of the installed CPU cooler.

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2nd Gen Ryzen @ Ryzen 2 Key Features Part 2

Soldered IHS

All 2nd Gen Ryzen processors will feature soldered heatspreaders, using premium indium alloy solder. This allows die temperatures to be reduced by 10°C.

Multiplier Unlocked

Like its predecessor, the 2nd Gen Ryzen processors are all multiplier unlocked, so you have full flexibility in overclocking them. Fun fact : The entry-level A320 chipset, which doesn’t allow CPU overclocking, will still allow you to overclock the DDR4 memory.

New Wraith Prism Cooler

The AMD Ryzen 7 2700X (Price Check) now comes with the new Wraith Prism cooler, which is basically the Wraith Max with a “swirling vortex of colour“. The heatsink fin profile was reshaped to allow for better compatibility with smaller motherboards.

The heatsink was also improved with direct contact heat pipes. The fan is also quieter at just 37 dBA, although there is a switch that allows the fan to be overclocked.

AMD 400-Series Chipsets

AMD announced the AMD X470 chipset to complement the new 2nd Gen Ryzen processors. Eventually, they will also release the B450 chipset in mid-2018. However, this does not mean you need to pair the 2nd Gen Ryzen processors with an AMD X470 motherboard.

The 2nd Gen Ryzen processors are drop-in compatible with AMD 300-Series motherboards, with one caveat – they must have an updated BIOS. To help you with that, motherboards that have the updated BIOS will come with an AMD Ryzen Desktop 2000 Ready sticker.

The AMD X470 is very similar to the previous-generation X370 chipset. It is an evolutionary upgrade that improves idle power draw, and introduces an improved power infrastructure to help 2nd Gen Ryzen processors achieve higher boost speeds.

The AMD 400-Series chipsets boast better memory routing, better VRM and power layouts, and a lower idle power of less than 2 watts. While the 2nd Gen Ryzen processors will run on the existing AMD 300-series motherboards, an AMD 400-Series motherboard will allow for better overclocking, and a free AMD StoreMI licence.

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AMD StoreMI Technology

AMD StoreMI is an OEM version of the Enmotus FuzeDrive Basic. It combines all of your storage drives into a single virtual storage drive. It can even add up to 2 GB of DDR4 memory as a very fast cache to the combined drive.

The software than automatically assigns frequently used data blocks to the fastest storage devices, optimising your storage devices to deliver the best performance possible. This allows you to leverage your much faster SSD and system memory to boost the performance of your HDD drives.

According to AMD’s tests, StoreMI will let you load your games faster by 2.8X, and applications by 9.8X.

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2nd Gen Ryzen @ Ryzen 2 Demos

We had an early preview of the 2nd Gen Ryzen processors in Bangkok. Here are videos of the previews and demos :

First Look At The AMD Ryzen 7 2700X

This was our first look at the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X (Price Check). AMD ran it on the ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WIFI) motherboard, with G.SKILL Sniper X DDR4 memory. It was also our first look at the new AMD Wraith Prism cooler, with its RGB LED ring, and illuminated fan blades.

CINEBENCH R15 Demo

The Core i7-8700K (Price Check) on the left, had a score of 1399 cb, while the Ryzen 7 2700X (Price Check) on the right, achieved 1544 cb.

Mega-Tasking Demo

The Core i7-8700K (Price Check) on the left, took 42.1 seconds to complete the mega-tasking demo, while the Ryzen 7 2700X (Price Check) on the right, took 42.6 seconds.

Sami Mäkinen On 2nd Gen Ryzen Overclocking

Extreme overclocker Sami Mäkinen from AMD’s Technical Marketing team showed us how to overclock the 2nd Gen Ryzen processor using the new AMD Ryzen Master 1.3 utility.

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The AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Up Close!

The AMD Ryzen 7 2700X (Price Check) processor is the top-of-the-line Ryzen 7 model. It has eight Ryzen processor cores, with a 3.7 GHz base clock, and a 4.3 GHz boost clock. It supports SMT (simultaneous multi-threading), and can therefore handle 16 threads simultaneously.

Read our full AMD Ryzen 7 2700X review!

 

The AMD Ryzen 7 2600X Up Close!

The AMD Ryzen 5 2600X (Price Check) processor is the top-of-the-line Ryzen 5 model. It has six Ryzen processor cores, with a 3.6 GHz base clock, and a 4.2 GHz boost clock. It supports SMT (simultaneous multi-threading), and can therefore handle 12 threads simultaneously.

Read our full AMD Ryzen 5 2600X review!

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How Fast Is The AMD Ryzen 7 2700X?

Here are AMD’s performance comparisons of the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X (Price Check) against the Intel Core i7-8700K (Price Check), with an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 graphics card.

CPU Performance

1080p Gaming Performance

1440p Gaming Performance

 

How Fast Is The AMD Ryzen 5 2600X?

These slides compare the performance of the AMD Ryzen 5 2600X (Price Check) against the Intel Core i5-8600K.

CPU Performance

1080p Gaming Performance

1440p Gaming Performance

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SiSoftware Performance Analysis

A detailed performance analysis of the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X and Ryzen 5 2600 processors was leaked before the launch. It compared their performance against the Ryzen 7 1700X and Intel Core i7-6700K processors. For your convenience, here are the leaked performance charts :

For the full detailed SiSoftware analysis, head over to AMD Ryzen 7 2700X and Ryzen 5 2600 Benchmarks Leaked!

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The Complete 2nd Gen Ryzen @ Ryzen 2 Presentation Slides

Here are the fifty (50) 2nd Gen Ryzen @ Ryzen 2 presentation slides for your perusal!

 

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Cheaper Ryzen CPUs When Ryzen 2 Launches?

AMD is almost ready to launch the Ryzen 2 desktop processors, leading to speculation that it would herald the availability of cheaper Ryzen processors. Like everyone else, we love a good deal. Let’s see if the launch of Ryzen 2 will result in cheaper Ryzen processors!

 

No : AMD Just Gave Us Cheaper Ryzen CPUs!

AMD just announced a major Ryzen price cut on 1 February 2018. The AMD Ryzen 7 1800X, for example, received a $100 (22%) price cut, although in some countries (like here in Malaysia), it received a massive $228 (35%) price cut!

US Recommended Retail Price
(without taxes)
Launch Price
(2017)
New Price
(1 Feb 2018)
Difference
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X $999 $999 No Change
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920X $799 $799 No Change
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1900X $549 $449 – $100
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X $449 $349 – $100
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X $399 $309 – $90
AMD Ryzen 7 1700 $329 $299 – $30
AMD Ryzen 5 1600X $249 $219 – $30
AMD Ryzen 5 1600 $219 $189 – $30
AMD Ryzen 5 1500X $189 $174 – $15
AMD Ryzen 5 2400G $169
AMD Ryzen 5 1400 $169 $169 No Change
AMD Ryzen 3 1300X $129 $129 No Change
AMD Ryzen 3 1200 $109 $109 No Change
AMD Ryzen 3 2200G $99

You can read more about the February 2018 Ryzen price cut, and our analysis in our article, The 2018 AMD Ryzen Price Cut Details Examined!

 

Yes : The Ryzen Models Being Replaced Will Be Cheaper

The AMD Ryzen 2 price list was leaked earlier, showing how AMD intends to position the four new Pinnacle Ridge models.

As you can see, three of the upcoming Ryzen 2 (Pinnacle Ridge) processors directly replace four of the first-generation Ryzen (Summit Ridge) processors :

Ryzen 7 1800X ($349) -> Ryzen 7 2700X ($369)
Ryzen 7 1700X ($309) / Ryzen 7 1700 ($299) -> Ryzen 7 2700 ($299)
Ryzen 5 1600X ($219) -> Ryzen 5 2600X ($249)

It is very likely that the Ryzen 7 1800X, Ryzen 7 1700X and Ryzen 7 1700 will be priced lower after Ryzen 2 hits the market. The Ryzen 5 1600X, though, will probably continue to be sold at $219.

The Ryzen 5 1400 and Ryzen 3 1200 are no longer mentioned in the leaked slide, because they’re being replaced by the Ryzen 5 2400G and Ryzen 3 2200G desktop APUs. However, we don’t see them being discounted, as they offer better CPU and memory performance than the APUs for those who don’t need the integrated Vega graphics.

 

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The AMD Raven Ridge Desktop APU Tech Report Rev. 3.0

At CES 2018, AMD announced the AMD Raven Ridge desktop processors – the long-awaited AMD Ryzen APUs. They are basically AMD Ryzen processors with AMD Radeon Vega graphics built-in. We can now share with you the full details and our reviews of the AMD Raven Ridge desktop APUs!

Updated @ 2018-02-13 : Added the AMD Ryzen 5 2400G and Ryzen 3 2200G review links. Updated various parts of the article.

Updated @ 2018-02-10 : Added two new sections on the new CPU package, L3 cache, PCI Express lanes, and Precision Boost 2. Also updated the section on the Single CCX Configuration.

Originally posted @ 2018-02-08

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The AMD Raven Ridge Desktop APU Reviews

Here are the reviews of the new AMD Raven Ridge desktop APUs.

 

The AMD Raven Ridge Desktop APUs

Raven Ridge is AMD’s codename for their Ryzen-Vega APUs (Accelerated Processing Units). First introduced in the mobile segment as the AMD Ryzen Mobile, AMD is now introducing them to the desktop market.

The new Ryzen APUs combine an AMD Ryzen CPU, with an AMD Radeon Vega GPU, in a single die.

AMD Ryzen CPU + AMD Radeon Vega GPU = AMD Ryzen APU

Desktops APUs are not new. AMD have been making them for years, and many Intel desktop processors come with integrated graphics. But AMD is still the only manufacturer to integrate “premium CPU cores” with “premium graphics cores” to deliver gaming for the masses with :

  • 1080p HD+ gaming performance without a discrete graphics card
  • support for Radeon FreeSync, Radeon Chill, Enhanced Sync and Radeon ReLive

 

Single CCX Configuration

Unlike the Summit Ridge-based Ryzen CPUs, the AMD Raven Ridge processors use a single CCX configuration. This is a cost-saving measure with a much smaller die size, that also yield some performance benefits – reduced cache and memory latencies.

AMD analysed the performance of the 2+2 and 4+0 configuration and concluded that they are “roughly equivalent on average across 50+ games“.

 

Smaller L3 Cache

Using a single CCX configuration halves the Raven Ridge L3 cache size from 8 MB to 4 MB. To compensate, AMD increased their base and boost clock speeds, particularly in the Ryzen 5 2400G.

 

New CPU Package

The Raven Ridge APUs also introduce a revised CPU package, and a switch to the traditional non-metallic TIM (thermal interface material). These are again cost-cutting measures, albeit with a side benefit of allowing the Raven Ridge processors to officially support DDR4-2933 memory.

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Precision Boost 2

The new Raven Ridge processors also boast the improved Precision Boost 2, whose more graceful and linear boost algorithm allows them to “boost more cores, more often, on more workloads“. It is now able to change frequencies in very fine granularity of just 25 MHz.

According to AMD, this will allow the Raven Ridge processors to perform better with apps and games that spawn many lightweight threads, as opposed to apps with persistent loads (e.g. video editing and 3D rendering).

 

PCIe x8 For Discrete GPU

The Summit Ridge-based AMD Ryzen 7, Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 3 processors have 16 PCI Express 3.0 lanes dedicated to the PCIe graphics card. In Raven Ridge, that gets cut down to half. That means any external graphics card will only communicate with a Raven Ridge processor at PCIe x8 speed.

This is a cost-saving measure, making the Raven Ridge processor simpler and cheaper to produce. The Ryzen 3 2200G, for example, is $10 cheaper than its predecessor, the Ryzen 3 1200. They also claim that the move contributed to a smaller and more efficient uncore.

AMD made this decision because “abundant public data has shown that this is a neutral change for the midrange GPUs and workloads likely to be paired with a $99-169 processor“.

Frankly, the Raven Ridge is best used as-is. If you plan to use a discrete graphics card, it makes far more sense to get the Summit Ridge-based AMD Ryzen 7, Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 3 processors instead.

Next Page > Unboxing Raven Ridge, Specifications, Price & Availability

 

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The AMD Ryzen 2000G Series APUs Revealed!

As announced at CES 2018, AMD is introducing two Raven Ridge desktop processors as part of the new AMD Ryzen 2000G family – the AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, and the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G.

AMD kindly sent us their Raven Ridge desktop processor media kit, which we unboxed in this video :

 

The AMD Raven Ridge Desktop APU Specification Comparison

For your convenience, we created this table that compares their key specifications with those of their CPU-equivalents – the AMD Ryzen 5 1400 and the AMD Ryzen 3 1200.

SpecificationsAMD Ryzen 5 2400GAMD Ryzen 5 1400AMD Ryzen 3 1200AMD Ryzen 3 2200G
TDP65 W65 W65 W65 W
SocketAM4AM4AM4AM4
Process Technology14 nm FinFET14 nm FinFET14 nm FinFET14 nm FinFET
Transistor Count4.94 Billion4.8 Billion4.8 Billion4.94 Billion
Die Size209.78 mm²192 mm²192 mm²209.78 mm²
CCX Configuration4+02+22+24+0
Processor Cores4444
Number of Simultaneous Threads8844
L2 Cache Size2 MB2 MB2 MB2 MB
L3 Cache Size4 MB8 MB8 MB4 MB
Base Clock Speed3.6 GHz3.2 GHz3.1 GHz3.5 GHz
Boost Clock Speed3.9 GHz3.4 GHz3.4 GHz3.7 GHz
Max. DDR4 SpeedDDR4-2933DDR4-2667DDR4-2667DDR4-2933
GPURadeon RX Vega 11
- 704 stream processors
- 44 TMUs, 16 ROPs
- Up to 1250 MHz
NoneNoneRadeon Vega 8
- 512 stream processors
- 32 TMUs, 16 ROPs
- Up to 1100 MHz
PCI Express LanesPCIe x8PCIe x16PCIe x16PCIe x8
Bundled CPU CoolerAMD Wraith StealthAMD Wraith StealthAMD Wraith StealthAMD Wraith Stealth
Launch PriceUS$ 169US$ 169US$ 109US$ 99

 

AMD Raven Ridge Price & Availability

The AMD Raven Ridge desktop APUs are available for purchase starting 12 February 2018, at the following prices :

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  • AMD Ryzen 5 2400G (review) : $169 | RM 759 (inclusive of 6% GST)
  • AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (review) : $99 | RM 479 (inclusive of 6% GST)

At those price points, these Raven Ridge APUs will literally shred Intel processors with integrated graphics to pieces with their value proposition. More cores and more threads, with a much faster graphics core, at such prices. What more can you ask for?

The AMD Raven Ridge desktop APUs will be a relief to many esports gamers, who are suffering from extremely high GPU prices because of cryptocurrency miners.

 

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AMD Ryzen 3 2200G With Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Review

AMD announced the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G with Radeon Vega 8 Graphics at CES 2018, and now it is finally here!. Today, we will share with you our review of the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G APU, and its integrated Radeon Vega 8 Graphics!

 

The AMD Ryzen 3 2200G Specifications Compared

We created this table to compare the specifications of the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) and AMD Ryzen 5 2400G (Price Check) APUs, against the AMD Ryzen 5 1400 and AMD Ryzen 3 1200 CPUs, that they will replace.

SpecificationsAMD Ryzen 5 2400GAMD Ryzen 5 1400AMD Ryzen 3 1200AMD Ryzen 3 2200G
TDP65 W65 W65 W65 W
SocketAM4AM4AM4AM4
Process Technology14 nm FinFET14 nm FinFET14 nm FinFET14 nm FinFET
Transistor Count4.94 Billion4.8 Billion4.8 Billion4.94 Billion
Die Size209.78 mm²192 mm²192 mm²209.78 mm²
CCX Configuration4+02+22+24+0
Processor Cores4444
Number of Simultaneous Threads8844
L2 Cache Size2 MB2 MB2 MB2 MB
L3 Cache Size4 MB8 MB8 MB4 MB
Base Clock Speed3.6 GHz3.2 GHz3.1 GHz3.5 GHz
Boost Clock Speed3.9 GHz3.4 GHz3.4 GHz3.7 GHz
Max. DDR4 SpeedDDR4-2933DDR4-2667DDR4-2667DDR4-2933
GPURadeon RX Vega 11
- 704 stream processors
- 44 TMUs, 16 ROPs
- Up to 1250 MHz
NoneNoneRadeon Vega 8
- 512 stream processors
- 32 TMUs, 16 ROPs
- Up to 1100 MHz
PCI Express LanesPCIe x8PCIe x16PCIe x16PCIe x8
Bundled CPU CoolerAMD Wraith StealthAMD Wraith StealthAMD Wraith StealthAMD Wraith Stealth
Launch PriceUS$ 169US$ 169US$ 109US$ 99

 

Unboxing The AMD Ryzen 5 2400G

The AMD Ryzen 3 2200G with Radeon Vega 8 Graphics (Price Check) comes bundled with an AMD Wraith Stealth cooler. Let’s unbox it, and see what we find inside!

Here is what you will find inside the box :

  • The AMD Ryzen 3 2200G APU (Price Check)
  • A pair of Ryzen and Radeon case badges
  • The AMD Wraith Stealth cooler
  • A set of AMD CPU installation guide, and motherboard compatibility note

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The AMD Ryzen 3 2200G APU Up Close!

The AMD Ryzen 3 2200G with Radeon Vega 8 Graphics (Price Check) has four Ryzen processor cores with a 3.5 GHz base clock, and a 3.7 GHz boost clock. It does not support SMT (simultaneous multi-threading), so it can only handle 4 threads simultaneously.

It uses a single CCX (CPU Complex), allowing AMD to fit a Radeon GPU on the same die. Its transistor count only increased by 3% to 4.94 billion, with a 9% larger die size of 209.78 mm².

 

Single CCX Configuration

Unlike the Summit Ridge-based Ryzen CPUs, the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) uses a single CCX configuration. This is a cost-saving measure that yields a much smaller die size, with some performance benefits – reduced cache and memory latencies.

AMD analysed the performance of the 2+2 and 4+0 configurations, and concluded that they are “roughly equivalent on average across 50+ games“.

 

Smaller L3 Cache

Using a single CCX configuration has the unfortunate effect of halving the L3 cache size from 8 MB to 4 MB. AMD increased its base and boost clock speeds to compensate for the smaller L3 cache.

The AMD Ryzen 3 2200G has a 400 MHz (13%) higher base clock and a 300 MHz (9%) higher boost clock than the Ryzen 3 1200 it replaces.

 

New CPU Package

The Raven Ridge APUs also introduce a revised CPU package, and a switch to the traditional non-metallic TIM (thermal interface material). These are again cost-cutting measures, albeit with a side benefit of allowing the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) to officially support DDR4-2933 memory.

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Precision Boost 2

The AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) supports the improved Precision Boost 2, whose more graceful and linear boost algorithm allows them to “boost more cores, more often, on more workloads“. It can change frequencies in very fine granularity of just 25 MHz.

According to AMD, this will allow the Raven Ridge processors to perform better with apps and games that spawn many lightweight threads, as opposed to apps with persistent loads (e.g. video editing and 3D rendering).

 

PCIe x8 For Discrete GPU

The Summit Ridge-based AMD Ryzen 7, Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 3 processors have 16 PCI Express 3.0 lanes dedicated to the PCIe graphics card. The AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) only has half that – 8 PCIe lanes. That means any external graphics card will only communicate with it at PCIe x8 speed.

This is a cost-saving measure, although AMD also claims that the move contributed to a smaller and more efficient uncore. According to AMD, this is unlikely to make a significant difference with the type of (mid-range) graphics cards this processor will usually be paired with.

 

AMD Wraith Stealth

The AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) is bundled with the AMD Wraith Stealth cooler. This is a basic CPU cooler, so don’t expect LED or RGB lighting, a copper base or even heatpipes.

The Wraith Stealth cooler uses a simple, low-profile aluminium heatsink, with a new spring-screw clamping system. Its main advantage – it’s quiet with a maximum noise level of 28 dBa.

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Benchmarking The AMD Ryzen 3 2200G

In this review, we will take a look at the work and gaming performance of the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G APU. In the CPU tests, we will compare it to the AMD Ryzen 5 2400G (Price Check), as well as the AMD Ryzen 5 1500X (Price Check) and the AMD Ryzen 3 1300X (Price Check).

AMD Ryzen 5 1500X AMD Ryzen 5 2400G AMD Ryzen 3 1300X AMD Ryzen 3 2200G
Cores / Threads 4 / 8 4 / 8 4 / 4 4 / 4
Base Clock 3.5 GHz 3.6 GHz 3.5 GHz 3.5 GHz
Boost Clock 3.7 GHz 3.9 GHz 3.7 GHz 3.7 GHz
L2 Cache 2 MB 2 MB 2 MB 2 MB
L3 Cache 16 MB 4 MB 8 MB 4 MB
Memory Speed DDR4-2666 DDR4-2933 DDR4-2666 DDR4-2933
Current Price US$ 189 US$ 169 US$ 129 US$ 99

In the graphics tests, we will compare it to the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 (Price Check), and the AMD Radeon RX 460 (Price Check) graphics cards. The graphics drivers used were the NVIDIA GeForce 390.77 and the AMD Radeon Software 17.7.

 

3D Rendering Speed – CINEBENCH R15

CINEBENCH R15 is a real-world 3D rendering benchmark based on the MAXON Cinema 4D animation software. This is a great way to accurately determine the actual performance of a processor in 3D content creation.

CINEBENCH R15 Single Core

This Single Core test is not reflective of real world performance, but it is useful to find out the performance of the individual core.

The AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) has the same clock speeds as the Ryzen 3 1300X (Price Check), but was 12.4% slower in single-core performance. This shows just how much effect the larger L3 cache has on performance.

CINEBENCH R15 Multi Core

The Multi-Core test shows the processor’s real-world 3D rendering performance.

The AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) did well in the Multi Core test, coming in only 6% slower than the Ryzen 3 1300X (Price Check), and just 24% slower than the Ryzen 5 2400G (Price Check).

CINEBENCH R15 MP Ratio

The analysis of the Multi-Processing Ratio is useful in checking the efficiency of the SMT implementation. The MP Ratio is independent of the processor’s clock speed.

It looks like the Raven Ridge microarchitecture does indeed have reduced latencies, thanks to the use of a single CCX.

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Video Transcoding Speed – HandBrake

HandBrake is a free, open-source video transcoding utility. Video transcoding basically converts a video file from one resolution / format to another. As you can imagine, it’s very compute-intensive. In our test, we converted a 4K video of 1.3 GB in size into a 1080p video (HQ1080p30).

Despite its clock speed advantage, the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) was 12% slower than the Ryzen 3 1300X (Price Check) at video transcoding. This is due to the much smaller L3 cache size.

 

Radial Blur Speed – Photoshop CC 14

The radial blur filter adds the perception of motion to a picture. This is a compute-intensive operation that benefits from multiple processing cores. This radial blur test was performed on a single 13.5 megapixel photo, with a filesize of 4,910,867 bytes.

Again, the smaller L3 cache size reduced its performance by 6% compared to the Ryzen 3 1300X (Price Check).

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3DMark – FireStrike (1920 x 1080)

In the 3DMark FireStrike benchmark that runs at 1920 x 1080, the Radeon Vega 8 core of the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) delivered a Graphics Score of just over 2700. This makes it less than half as fast as the AMD Radeon RX 460 (Price Check).

 

3DMark – FireStrike Extreme (2560 x 1440)

When we bumped up the resolution to 2560 x 1440, the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G delivered a Graphics Score of just 1220 – 12% slower than the Ryzen 5 2400G (Price Check).

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Ashes of the Singularity (1080p)

In the RTS game, Ashes of the Singularity, the single core CPU performance has a significant effect on the actual frame rate. We tested the cards using the Low setting preset.

At the resolution of 1920 x 1080, the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) delivered a frame rate just under 25 fps. This was with the quality set to Low. So gamers will want to drop the resolution to 720p to get a decent frame rate.

 

Ashes of the Singularity (1440p)

We then bumped up the resolution to 2560 x 1440, again with the settings set to Low.

At 1440p, the average frame rate of the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) dropped by 12%.

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Total War: Warhammer (1080p)

Like Ashes of the Singularity, the single core performance appears to be crucial in Total War: Warhammer.

At 1080p, the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) delivered a playable average frame rate of 37 fps. However, note that the quality settings were set to Low.

 

Total War: Warhammer (1440p)

We then bumped up the resolution 1440p to see how they fare, again with the quality settings set to Low.

1440p was just too hard for the Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) to handle. The average frame rate of 22.5 fps is just too low to be playable.

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For Honor (1080p)

We started out testing For Honor using the Low settings, which means Trilinear Filtering and no Anti-Aliasing.

The AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) was able to deliver a playable frame rate, which averages out at 35 fps. This makes it about ⅓ as fast as the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 (Price Check) graphics card.

 

For Honor (1080p)

We then increase the resolution to 2560 x 1440, still using the Low settings.

The AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) was definitely not powerful enough to handle the increased workload, with an average frame rate of only 21.5 fps.

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Our Verdict

First off, it bears reminding that the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) is an APU – basically a quad-core processor, with built-in AMD Vega graphics. Even with the added graphics capability, AMD actually made the Ryzen 3 2200G cheaper than the Ryzen 3 1200 CPU it replaces.

AMD achieved this by using half of a Summit Ridge processor die, allowing 8 Vega Compute Units to be inserted with a slight bump in transistor count and die size. This clever bit of engineering compromise, and a number of other tweaks, allowed them to keep costs low.

The biggest problem with the decision to use a single CCX – the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) only has a 4 MB L3 cache – half that of the Ryzen 3 1200 CPU it replaces. AMD increased its clock speed to compensate, actually making the Ryzen 3 2200G equivalent to the Ryzen 3 1300X (Price Check) on paper.

As our benchmark results show, the Ryzen 3 2200G was 6-12% slower than the Ryzen 3 1300X. But that’s really okay, because the 1300X is 23% more expensive at $129!

When it comes to games, AMD promised that it will deliver “1080 HD+ gaming performance“. That may be true for less strenuous esports games like Dota 2. In the games we tested, its Radeon Vega 8 graphics core can only deliver playable frame rates at 1080p if we use the lowest possible quality settings.

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Make no mistake – the Radeon Vega 8 processor graphics is no replacement for a good graphics card, like AMD’s own Radeon RX Vega 64 and Radeon RX Vega 56.

So what is the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G really good for? We see it being used mostly in small form-factor esports gaming PCs. It offers decent CPU and gaming performance for games like Dota 2, League of Legends and CS:GO in a single, highly-affordable and power-efficient package.

Remember – the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) offers 4-core CPU performance, with faster than average processor graphics, for just 65 watts of power consumption.

If you are looking to play games with all of the bells and whistles enabled, you need to opt for a dedicated graphics card. But if you are a casual gamer, or just want a really affordable and power-efficient esports gaming system (looking at you esports cafe owners!), it’s hard to beat the value proposition of the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check).

Mark our words – the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G is going to shred Intel processors with integrated graphics to pieces.

 

The AMD Ryzen 3 2200G Price & Availability

As AMD announced, the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (Price Check) desktop APU will be available starting 12 February 2018.

It is priced at just US$99 (RM 479 in Malaysia), making it an affordable gaming solution. This will be a relief to many esports gamers, who are suffering from extremely high GPU prices because of cryptocurrency miners.

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