What Did Pfizer Scientist Nick Karl Expose To Project Veritas?

Did Pfizer scientist Nick Karl admit to Project Veritas that natural immunity is better than vaccination?

Take a look at the video, and find out what the facts really are!


Project Veritas : Pfizer Scientist Nick Karl Says Natural Immunity Better Than Vaccination!

On 4 October 2021, Project Veritas released a video of Pfizer scientist, Nick Karl, saying that natural immunity is better than vaccination.

They claim to have exposed the truth that natural immunity is equal, if not better than, the vaccine.

[NEW YORK – Oct. 4, 2021] Project Veritas released the fourth video in its COVID vaccine investigative series today which exposed three Pfizer officials saying that antibodies lead to equal, if not better, protection against the virus compared to the vaccine.

Nick Karl, a scientist who is directly involved in the production of Pfizer’s COVID vaccine, said that natural immunity is more effective than the very vaccine he works on, and Pfizer produces.

“When somebody is naturally immune — like they got COVID — they probably have more antibodies against the virus…When you actually get the virus, you’re going to start producing antibodies against multiple pieces of the virus … So, your antibodies are probably better at that point than the [COVID] vaccination,” Karl said. Notwithstanding, Karl still believes that vaccine mandates are positive for society.


Truth : Project Veritas Video Of Nick Karl Doesn’t Change Facts

This Project Veritas video is no different from their past videos – misinformation based on heavily-edited videos that are designed to mislead you.

While the video may look convincing, it doesn’t change the facts that vaccination is far superior to natural immunity, and here are the reasons why…

Fact #1 : Project Veritas Videos Are Always Misleading

It is a hallmark of Project Veritas videos that they are secretly recorded, and then heavily edited to cast a misleading angle in the story, or to push misinformation. In other words – propaganda.

You can watch the video they have been sharing, which we added a Misleading overlay to prevent abuse, to see for yourself.

You could find yourself agreeing with them that they “exposed” Nick Karl, but I will show you why it’s just a sleight of hand and why the video is not only misleading, it doesn’t change anything.

Fact #2 : The Project Veritas Video Was Heavily Edited

The viral video shows Nick Karl (Nicholas Karl) dining with a lady (from Project Veritas) in a social setting, saying :

When somebody is naturally immune, like, they got COVID, they probably have better, like, not better, but more antibodies against the virus.

So, your antibodies are probably better at that point than the vaccination.

Wow, that sounds like an admission that natural immunity is better than vaccination, doesn’t it?

However, Project Veritas edited this part out of the original Nick Karl video :

Because what the vaccine is – is, like I said, that protein – that’s just on the outside. So it’s just one antibody against one specific part of the virus.

When you actually get the virus, you’re going to start producing antibodies against, like, multiple pieces of virus and not only just like that outside portion, like the inside portion, the actual virus.

So you have to ask yourself – what else did Project Veritas edit out of the full Nick Karl video?

No one knows because Project Veritas did not release the full, unedited video.

Fact #3 : Nothing Nick Said Are Secrets

At the end of the video, Project Veritas cuts to Nick saying, “I specifically have, like… Oh God, I signed NDAs against this.

Sounds incriminating, but we don’t actually know what he’s referring to because … Project Veritas heavily-edited the video and removed all context!

But what may not seem obvious at first glance is this – whatever he said in that video was not exactly correct, and was really not a secret. It was just basic virology and vaccine science, so why would he need to sign an NDA?

Could it be possible he wanted to impress the lady and cooked up that NDA story to make him sound more important? Who knows? Because Project Veritas edited out all context!

Fact #4 : Antibodies Are Produced Against EXTERNAL Virus Surfaces

Nick Karl was only partly correct in his explanation in that video.

When the immune system recognises the SARS-CoV-2 virus as foreign, it produces antibodies that attach to the virus surface, blocking it from infecting cells, and flagging it for macrophages to eat and destroy (phagocytosis).

Because the immune system can only see the EXTERNAL virus surfaces, it only produces antibodies against the EXTERNAL virus surfaces.

Your immune system doesn’t have x-ray vision, and thus cannot produce antibodies against the internal part of the virus – its RNA. Even if it could, the antibodies cannot penetrate the virus to attach to the RNA.

Photo Credit : NIH

Fact #5 : More Antibodies Doesn’t Mean Better Immunity

Nick Karl is correct that your immune system will produce more antibodies because the SARS-CoV-2 virus offers a “complete” range of surfaces for different antibodies to be designed and produced.

However, having a wide range of antibodies against the SARS-CoV-2 does not mean that the immunity is better. That’s why Nick actually said “not better, but more antibodies“.

In fact, inactivated virus vaccines like the Sinovac CoronaVac vaccine are LESS EFFECTIVE than mRNA vaccines, even though they offer the complete SARS-CoV-2 virus surface to the immune system.

Antibodies against envelope proteins, for example, may attach to the virus but not prevent it from infecting cells.

That’s why most COVID-19 vaccines target the spike protein that the virus uses to infect our cells. Their antibodies will attach to the spike proteins, physically blocking the virus from attaching to our cells.

We do not just want MORE antibodies, we want MORE antibodies of the RIGHT KIND.

Photo credit : Siemens Healthcare

Fact #6 : Nick Karl Does NOT Work With COVID-19 Vaccines

Project Veritas claimed that Nick is a scientist “who is directly involved in the production of Pfizer’s COVID vaccine“. That’s a lie that can be easily proven.

Nick Karl in the Project Veritas video is actually Nicholas Karl, a biochemist who works at Pfizer’s Pearl River R&D facility.

Not only is Pfizer Pearl River NOT involved in the production of the COVID-19 vaccine, Nick himself is also NOT involved in the production of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine.

His (now deleted) LinkedIn profile shows that he is part of the Pfizer team developing the direct Luminex assay for COVID-19 and E. coli vaccines.

In other words, his work involves developing and qualifying a test to detect the quantity of antibodies that SARS-CoV-2 and E. coli vaccines produce.

Fact #7 : Natural Immunity Is NOT Guaranteed

Irrespective of what Nick Karl may have said, and all the videos that Project Veritas may produce, they will not change the fact that natural immunity to COVID-19 is NOT guaranteed.

On 10 May 2021, the WHO released a scientific brief on COVID-19 natural immunity, which points out that :

  • 90-99% of infected individuals develop neutralising antibodies within 2-4 weeks of the infection.
  • 1-10% of infected individuals do NOT develop neutralising antibodies at all.
  • Individuals with mild / asymptomatic infection produce LOWER antibodies than those with severe COVID-19.
  • Natural immunity appears to offer 80-90% protection against reinfection for up to 7 months, but only 50% for people over 65 years old.

Because reinfections (sometimes twice!) have been reported even in younger adults with natural immunity, the WHO and all major health authorities recommend that even people who survive COVID-19 should get vaccinated.

Fact #8 : Natural Immunity Isn’t Risk-Free

What Project Veritas does not mention is that for you to gain “natural immunity”, you must first put your life at risk by getting infected with COVID-19.

The risk of dying from COVID-19 ranges from 0.25% to 10%, depending on whether there is ready access to an ICU and a ventilator. And even if you do survive, you may have to live with the effects of long COVID.

Vaccines offer a safer way to attain immunity against COVID-19. They are essentially self-defence classes that teach our own immune system to identify and create antibodies against COVID-19.

Choosing to risk your life with a “natural” COVID-19 infection instead of a vaccine, is like refusing to undergo military training before going to battle.

Sure, you could survive your battle, but you will have a better chance if you prepare for it, don’t you think?

Cpl. Daniel M. Greenwald survived this sniper shot thanks to his helmet!


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